were able to get in, and we saw all kinds of tourists who have showed up. they are being turned away, not allowed, and because that's and other cultural sites are shut down during the parts of the day when it is too hot here. over in the island of roads, a big tourist hotspots, some 1600 people have been evacuated due to those wildfires, erin. >> it's just crazy temperatures. josh, thank you for that. and a programming note, tim heavy, former lead investigator for the house january six committee, joins me shortly to talk about new reporting on mark meadows text messages plus the so-called war room meetings attended by several trump associates. that's coming up in just a few minutes. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> good day from msnbc world headquarters in new york, welcome to alex witt reports, i'm erin no hern in for alex. we begin with breaking news. south korea confirming that

north korea fired several rounds of cruise missiles into yellow sea overnight. the missile test appeared to be in protest against the deployment of a u.s. nuclear arms submarine to south korea last tuesday. it comes days after american soldier, travis king, suddenly crossed into north korea, while on a tour of the dmz area. as u.s. officials, seek information on his well-being. >> we are very concerned, of course, about his well-being, but we'd like to know is whereabouts, we've communicated to north korea, seeking that information. there are certainly concerns based on what we've seen in the past and the way that north korea is treated. >> also new today, congresswoman marjorie taylor greene slapped with an ethics complaint after she held up explicit images of biden during a hearing in congress this week, hunter biden's lawyers are asking that should be disciplined for quote, behavior

that blatantly violates house ethics rules, and standards of official conduct. a new court take for donald trump's classified documents trial, may 20th, 2024, a date miami herald calls a quiet spot during the campaign season. but other civil trials on trump's legal calendar are likely to split his attention at the height of a nomination process. here's what congressman ro khanna told me in the last hour. >> ultimately, i think people are going to say, do we really want to president who's got all these lawsuits? it is going to have the ability to focus on improving our lives and doing the job of the presidency? >> let's go right to nbc's ryan riley in washington d.c.. brian and how significant is the date for the documents trial, and could trump face even more trials? >> but they just very significant for the documents trial, because it really is a smacked of in the middle of this primary calendar. it would happen, basically with

a trial wrapping up just before the republican national convention was about to get underway. so basically, that primary would be decided at that point. you know, just based upon how busy the schedule is getting, the next year is really shaping up to be quite an ordeal. it's also important, because with those facts won't be on the board before voters who get to vote in several of the states, at least in the primary. they will be, of course, more information in the general but even we're talking about the future indictment we are going to be seeing, but i think it's gonna get tough on a calendar before a general election. what we're going to have a situation where the general election it is a substitute for say, a jury in these cases. where all of this evidence is going to be presented, but it won't be really adjudicated after the actual election dates. when you back up from, that you've got to wonder if they're thinking, with 2020 hindsight, whether or not it would make

sense to move up this proceeding a little bit, even especially in that first year of the investigation. when the january six committee was working, but before there was a lot of evidence of really the justice department investigation moving forward. it was sort of at a standstill in large part for that first year or so. >> yeah, a lot of moving parts going forward. ryan riley, thank you for that report. and new today, the washington post reports on text messages from mark meadows that show him making fun of trump's election fraud claims. new from rolling stone, special counsel jack smith's team is grilling trump allies about a january 6th war room at the willard hotel. joining us now, tim hazy, former u.s. attorney for the western district of virginia, and former lead investigator for the house january six committee. also with us, washington post reporter, perry stein. she covers the doj and the fbi. tim, let's start with you. mark meadows looms large over these investigations. the post i got, these

fascinating details of him met making fun of claims that large numbers of dead people voted. then, they slater, jumping on a call with trump, alleging 5000 dead voters in georgia. how do you interpret this, and does it square with what your committee found? >> yeah it completely squares with what we found. which was mark meadows was kind of all over the place. there were times when he reassured people that the president was coming along, you was going to accept and concede, that he had lost, and, then he would immediately turn and speech right in the thick of the fight to the president and to other allies about stop the steal, we have to resist the election being stolen, so, the text messages that's he provided this select committee, including the one the post is recording, reflect that. there were times where he seems to be to use bill stepien the campaign manager's term on team normal, acknowledging that lost. then, there were times he appeared to be on team crazy,

again, stepping his term, encouraging these bogus claims of election fraud. so you know, it's unclear what he really believed or thoughts, because of those inconsistent statements that we developed. >> and not surprise ugly, a spokesman for meadows to climb to comment on the article, and a spokesman for clump to climb to comment about meadows, but the post also reports this. since trump said he was a named target, his allies have been feverish lee speculating about the degree of meadows cooperation and whether he has provided testimonies that will be used to build a case against trump. and this, people in trump's orbit, have grown increasingly concerned about what they see as meadows retreat from the public seen as a prominent defender of the former president. i don't think he's tweeted something like five months. but given your experience as a former prosecutor what is your best interpretation of what exactly is going on here? >> yeah. meadows has exposure. there's no question. i, mean the select committee included him in the criminal

referral to the department of justice. he, himself was in the center of all of the prongs of this multi part plan to try to disrupt the joint session. he is in the middle of the potential personnel change at the department of justice, possible installation of jeff clark. he is on the raffensperger call. he literally arranges and participates in that infamous call, where the president tells secretary raffensperger, we just need to find 11,000 votes. during the day on january six, he is still contemplating, you know, improving the president going to the capital after his speech on the ellipse. so, look, he is clearly a conspirator. that means he could either be charged as a conspirator, or, he could work out some sort of deal with a lack of charge, in the hub of leniency, in exchange for cooperation. i don't know which of those paths heat will elect to take. it's clear from our investigation that he was so thick in this, what we found is a criminal conspiracy, that you

have exposure. >> and, periodontal turn to you. you've been writing about the new court date set by judge aileen cannon for trump's classified documents trial. seemingly rejecting what both sides want it. now, trump is taking it as a win. and a social media postings, but he does that frequently, even when it isn't a win. what can you tell us about that may 20th date? >> i think you're exactly right. she seemed to, you know, i was at that hearing and trump's team made the argument, that we really don't think we can get an impartial jury until essentially, after the november election. and that's 2024, and what we saw cannon do was rejected that argument and say look, that's not a reason under the speedy trial act to delay a trial. but we do know there is tons of materials that the government has evidence which, is part of a discovery process. which would take a long time, she said, for trump's team to properly view. so, she pushed in may.

that's for later than the december, that is more later than the december date the government requested, but also not far off for what trump wanted, to. >> and i want to ask you about this. a new report in the new york times argues that judge cannon may prove critics wrong. they cited her approach to setting a trial date, saying she appeared sympathetic to the trump team, but also nodded when prosecutors said trump should not be treated differently from any other citizen. then, she warned the defense team, i don't want to have delays, and conclude by promising to issue a ruling promptly. so, perry, what is your read on the judges handling so far? what is your best estimate for the timing of the actual trial? >> yeah, those are good questions. look, i think this is going to be a long road. if you look at the schedule that she set there's tons of states. there's tons of international discussions that he's going to have to make before she actually gets to this jury trial. now, i'm trying not to read too

much into every incremental decision that she makes, but i think that you know, i think you're right. you could say based on this decision, she did not give a slam dunk to the trump team. that was what a lot of people here based on the fact that she is a trump appointee. we know that our judicial system works that way. every judge is appointed by some president. you know, he did a special master ruling early in this case in favor of trump. that was resounded lee rejected by the appeals court. so, i don't know what to read into get. she said may and you're right, that could be delayed, depending on what happens in the pretrial. i mean, they've talked about in that hearing, that 7 to 8 weeks or something like that, could be the length of a trial. we don't. no but it does seem to give the prosecutors exactly what they want, some wiggle room to get this done before the general election. >> yeah. tim, let's talk about the doj investigation into efforts to overturn the 2020 election results. this report that jack smith is

zeroing in on the so-called war room in a luxury willard hotel in the hours before january six and, the actions of rudy giuliani, john eastman bernard kerik, boris epstein, and steve bannon. the january six committee could not get cooperation from these folks. but what did you learn about those more room activities? >> yeah. it's potentially significant, because it could be a link between the president and others in the white house. and the rioters. that is the significance of the willard and the war room. i can't say that we've found such a connection. the war room is where, as you said, steve bannon, and rudy giuliani and john eastman, kerik, mike flynn, there are a number of people they're working on they are sort of investigation into these bogus theories of election fraud in the strategy for january six. roger stone was there. he had security, as did mike flynn, from the oath keepers and the proud boys.

it was always an assumption that he, that's ban, and that others were sort of the connection between the white house and those extremist groups. we didn't get that kind of cooperation and could not establish that length, but that is precisely why, the special counsel, i think, is interested in the activity at the war room. special counsel has totals we didn't have, that getting additional information about what occurred there. looking for that connection between but sort of head of this conspiracy to disrupt the joint session, the former president, and some folks who were on the ground. >> okay. perry and tim, thank you so much for being with us. and a programming note, one of the key january six committee witnesses has a big revelation about jack smith's grand jury. hear from sarah matthews, former trump white house deputy press secretary, tomorrow at one. here on alex witt reports. our next story got the vice president so angry. she flew to florida to speak out about it. and it will definitely leave you wondering, what, exactly,

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atrocities! there was some benefit? desantis firing back, claiming democrats are lying about the education standards. joining me now is my colleague, reverend al sharpton, host of msnbc's politicsnation and president of the national action network. reverend, tell us about what you know about the changes and why on earth are they doing this? >> well, i think this is the culture war on steroids. it has been insighted by the florida governor, obviously he started with lgbtq communities, in terms of their history, he's gone on overdrive with blacks. we had a big march in washington in tallahassee, with the florida chapter, this is

the next step in trying to sabotage a history. to try to say that some blacks benefited from working with no way, just treated as chattel, not allowed by law to be able to learn how to read and write, not by lobbying able to marry, not by law being able to name their children after. them to suggest that somehow this benefited us is just really suggesting to students have the future that, well, maybe blacks were just genetically inferior. that's why they were unemployed, that's what they couldn't get in certain schools. and we cannot, as american citizens, black or white, tolerate that kind of misinformation. this is not only insulting, it is humiliating. >> yeah, it's just outrageous and hard to believe. the vice president also said that florida is misleading students on purpose. i want you to take a listen to this. >> it is a reasonable

expectation that our children will not be misled. and that is what is so outrageous about what is happening right now. and abject, purposeful, intentional policy to mislead our children. and so, let us be clear, teachers want to teach the truth. >> reverend, you spoke with vice president harris on thursday, just after deciding that she would travel to florida. what can you share with us about that conversation? >> well, we talked about that she wanted to go. she thought it was an outrage. i saluted her for going. i encouraged her, as others did, and she had already made a statement in indianapolis. i think the vice president did what is not only morally right, but i think it also brings the

body politic of this country back where it should be, where we do not let outright misinformation and bias and bigotry -- i give her a lot of credit. she has decided that that was not right, she went right to florida and did right in florida. i think we should all salute her for doing that. because imagine the offense that black people feel, that are great great grandparents benefited from being made three fifths of a human being? and made to work and never get paid? and to suggest that -- i mean, you are talking about people who is our bloodline. being humiliated like. that if you can do that to blacks, you can end up doing it to jews, you can end up doing it to irish, anyone that has a background anywhere in the world like that. you can fall under the same definition, oh, you were

bettered by it. you were battered by enslavement, your holocaust, your being victims or bias. where do you draw the line when you start letting people cross the line? >> yeah. i also want to talk to you because there has been other headlines this week, an intense backlash over country music star, jason, audience new music video. where he performs at a lynching site and features footage of blm protests, violence and crime, and the video is actually pulled from country music television, which did not immediately respond to a request for comment on friday. republicans are defending al dean, first of, all have you seen the video? and what is your reading of the song and the controversy surrounding? it >> well, the reading i have, and i have seen clips of the video, first of, all why would you choose the location where there was a famous lynching there? and second, why would you try to act like those that were protesting acts of police brutality, as in the george

floyd case, have protested 99% of which were peaceful, but they try to exacerbate tensions only showing one or two violent protests. -- in small towns, we were lynched and in small towns we were segregated into humanized. so this obvious attempt to try to soothe people through music, while you are doing the most to polarize and demonize a movement around policeman that choke demand death with -- and are in jail. for it and to try to distort the protest, we have protests all of the, world 200,000 people during the pandemic in washington. why didn't you show that in your video? oh, because we really want to say you didn't want anybody to question acts in a small town. you just want to exaggerate that that was the only thing going on. >> rev, i want to mention that

aldine did put out a tweet, stating that there was not a single lyric in that song that referenced race. what is your response to that tweet? >> well, if you are standing in front of a place famous for a lynching, if you are using graphics of protests around police brutality. you don't have to say anything. it's already set for you in what you choose to put out visually. so i, mean people, you know, they see -- my eyes are in front of my ears. so i see things, before i hear your lyrics. >> yeah, officials are very powerful. i want to switch gears for a minute on friday. alabama republicans defy the supreme and passed a new congressional map that includes only one majority black district instead of two. democrats say it continues the racist history of voter suppression. where does this redistricting

go from here? to ensure that black people are fairly represented? >> it's a very good question that i want to talk to somebody of the electors in alabama. because congresswoman -- and others, who are behind this. case here you have the supreme court, this right-wing supreme court, that killed affirmative action in women's right to choose. but even they said these maps were drawn unfairly, and you must redraw the district. for alabama, to defy the supreme court, what is the next step? is the federal government going to come in and enforce it? is someone going to be charged for standing in the way the law? we should aggressively -- i intend to be in that state this week, to aggressively rally around the fact that they've got to follow the helix of this court. let me get this, right this court says and affirmative action, they are for that. and women right to choose,

therefore. that but they, say you have to redraw lines to have another majority black district, you defy that? i thought the supreme court was something that they followed and told us to follow. >> all, right reverend al sharpton, always great to have your expertise on these topics. even though it's hard to believe we are still talking about this. see you later today. my next guest has a lot to say about the push to overturn the 2020 election results and he has some scary details about what exactly happened in arizona. we will speak to former trump insider, miles taylor, on his new book, that is next. taylor, on hi nebow ok, that is next hi! need new glasses? buy one pair, get one free at visionworks! how can you see me squinting? i can't! i'm just telling everyone!...hey! buy one pair, get one free for back to school. visionworks. see the difference. my asthma felt anything but normal. ♪ ♪ it was time for a nunormal with nucala. nucala is a once-monthly add-on treatment for severe eosinophilic asthma that can mean less oral steroids.

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do you need mulch? new day, a new trial date for what, we have a ton of mulch. donald trump, here's a look at the former presidents legal calendar between now and january. trials are set to begin in three civil lawsuits, then two big criminal trials are set for march 25th, when the hush money case gets underway in new york,

may 20th is the new date for the classified documents criminal trial. joining us now, miles taylor, former trump administration department of homeland security chief of staff, who in 2018 wrote an anonymous op-ed declaring himself part of the resistance inside. he now has a brand-new book, blowback, a warning to save democracy from the next trump, miles, thanks so much for being, here i did read warning, and i appreciated that book so much. i want to talk to you about the criminal trial dates that leave trump free and clear to lock in the gop nomination before any evidence is presented. is this a win for him? >> yes, i actually think it is, aaron. and i'm so glad you point that. out because i think some people looked at this and said oh, you know, judge aileen cannon is actually pursuing a reasonable course in the trial, it's going to happen before the election. anyone who is making that observation it is clearly someone who has not followed

the primary calendar in the past. think about any presidential election we have experienced. usually by the time the weather starts to get warm, we know who the nominees are. from the two major parties, the fact that this is going to happen in may of 2024, it gives donald trump an opportunity technically to lock up all the votes that he can -- [inaudible]

back in time, his mindset, what they called mens rhea in the law. because both cases donald trump's behavior in the years prior demonstrated a proclivity for illegal activity. in the case of classified documents, there is a long history of trump mishandling information. we can testify to. it i hope the special counsel's talking to those folks. i hope it's the same thing with insurrection, it wasn't a one-off, it wasn't spontaneous. in fact, for many years, donald trump talk to his lawyers and talk to officials like me and my team at the department of homeland security about how he could potentially invoke the insurrection act to exert executive power. january 6th happened, my very first thought was, the capital is being stormed, the president wanted it to happen to give him justification to provoke the act and disrupt the peaceful

transfer of power by deploying the military onto the streets. i hope the special counsel shows that this is not one of. i'm sure they have a lot of evidence in their pocket, i'm guessing. >>, miles you intend for your new book to be a warning. you get alarming details about your own anxiety and paranoia after you fest up to writing the damaging op-ed against trump. you also wrote, this quote, donald trump introduced a new brand of extremism to the republican party and the thuggish populism has grown beyond his control. thanks -- tell us what happened to, you did you ever find out who was behind those threats? >> well, you know, unfortunately, aaron, we are a cautionary tale. me and my family, i mean, we filled out restraining orders against maggots dockers. we still have to continue to be extremely cautious about our security, there's a reason why you see different backgrounds one amount of. a. we try to make sure that we

don't put any of our friends or family members, or the places where we, stay in the crosshairs because there is still chatter against us. still extremists trying to come after us. and, again, i don't i think folks don't need to have sympathy for me. i went into this eyes wide open. the consequence of speaking out against trump cost me at the time my home, my, job a relationship. personal security. such that on election night 2020, i was alone in a safe house in northern virginia, with an armed guard outside in a pistol under my pillow because of the death threats we received. again, i don't say that for sympathy, but americans need to understand how severe this is. the folks i really worry about by the people who aren't like me, who don't come from the national security community, who don't know how to protect themselves. the poll workers and local officials who have been on the receiving end of that thuggish intimidation. >> miles, i want you to stick around, i want to ask you about how trump, when he was in the white house, talked about women in general. and even ivanka in particular.

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miles taylor's book, blowback, and involves how trump interacted with women in the white house. one account involved former press secretary, sarah. sanders we will put it up on a full screen there what that

exchange looks like. miles taylor is back with us. miles, that expert goes to larger claims that trump, as a president, deployed sexism. including towards his own daughter. interviewers can look at that full screen and read that exchange. but with some aides claiming he made rude comments about a bunkers appearance. trump's campaign spokesman reacted to, this telling the daily mail, quote i'm, not going to get the time of day to miles taylor. adding that portions of the book have already been debunked. here's my question, you don't exactly cite a source on the ivanka. stuff and we would like to spare the viewers some of those details. but you did say afterwards, john kelly re-told you the story invisible discussed. without getting into the mocking, how did that conversation play out and what was kelly's take on all of this? >> well, i mean, erin, it's important to be honest about your sourcing. i did not witnessed donald

trump firsthand make those comments about his daughter, but they were relayed to me by someone who was an impeachable and his integrity. i've never heard john kelly make something up in the entire time of work for him. when he was white house chief of staff to donald, trump he witnessed the presidents make disgusting remarks about his daughter's physical appearance, her, body and what it might be like to be with her romantically. where he not her father. for mark switch, of, course prompted the chief of staff to remind the president that she was his daughter, now, aaron, i actually grappled with whether to even include conversations like this in the book, and donald trump's broader attitude towards women because you could make a case that his personal behavior towards women, however vial, is not relevant to public policy. but i actually think it is. his misogynistic attitude towards his female cabinet secretaries, he would comment on their weight and their

appearance. it has real implications for what he would do in a second term in the white house, why is that? because donald trump's very patronizing view towards women carries over into the things he wants to prioritize, on the policy front. i asked an operative that is very close to him, what with the top domestic policy priorities be? the person said, in a second term, it would be guns, gays and girls. i said what do you mean by girls? why is that a top domestic priority? he said, well donald trump is gonna take the opportunity to federally make abortion illegal. a dozen states have done it in the wake of the supreme court decision. he wants to go the full nine yards and get over the byline. i think it's really important to understand that his oppressive views towards women represent his mindset when in the oval office, thinking about public policy. >> this, week the new york times reports that trump and allies are making plans to increase presidential power in

2025, and limit the independents of federal agencies. back in april, they reported the heritage foundation was compiling a list of 20,000 conservatives to staff up the next republican. white house does this make you more or less concerned? >> vastly more concerned, erin, and it's something that i talk about in detail in the book, blow back. i have to say, the reporting from the times a spectacular. maggie haberman and jonathan's, one as, always painting a vivid picture there. if you want to know, the next layer deep of what is going to happen, that is what i try to lay out in blowback. let me be really specific. here when donald trump came into office, his administration was largely staffed by these conservative think tanks in washington, like the heritage foundation, and the list that they passed the trump transition team, included people like, meet people who had served in the george w. visit ministration, relatively moderate republicans from capitol hill. when trump came into office he found, out these are not the

people that he wanted working for him. he wanted hard-core maga loyal test and partisans who would say yes to what he wanted to do would do. in the next go, around the same thing tanks aren't cooking together lists of rational republicans. they are doing boil tests and making sure whoever they recommend for the republican white house is a hard-core maga supporter. and we'll do what the president wants. and not speak truth to power. all americans should be concerned, because as they say, not -- dom was bad when he was leading -- the former soviet union. it was the little stones that were. where is the ones who are willing to do very bad things to carry out the leader's demands. >> all right, miles taylor, thank you so much for your time. >> tension at the texas border just took another downward turn. we will be right back. turn we will be right back. our heritage is ingrained in our skin. and even when we metamorphosize into our new evolved form, we carry that spirit with us.

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the justice department is sending a warning to texas governor greg abbott about his new tactics aimed at keeping migrants out. the doj says it's prepared to sue if texas doesn't remove this controversial new water barrier, designed to prevent people from climbing over or swimming under them. here is part of a report from nbc's priscilla thompson on the governor's response. >> texas governor greg abbott, not backing down. after the department of justice threatened to sue over 1000 foot wall of buoys, now dividing the rio grande between

mexico and eagle pass, texas. but doj firing back against the buoys that governor abbott deployed earlier this month. in a letter, writing the state did not receive proper authorization for them. adding that the buoys violate federal law, raise humanitarian concerns, present serious risks to public safety and the environment. abbott firing back against the doj, writing texas has the sovereign authority to defend our border. vowing to continue using every strategy to deter smuggling and illegal crossings. >> that was priscilla thompson. joining me now is victoria defrancesco soto, and msnbc analyst and dean of the clinton school of public service. thanks for being with us. there are also reports of multiple injuries due to the use of razor wire at the border. what's your reaction to these barriers governor abbott set up, and the doj stepping in to get them removed? >> erin, the very first

reaction is -- cruelty. really aimed at cruelty, in terms of immigration, which is a human issue. right? we talk about illegals and aliens, but at the end of the day, they are humans who are seeking out better lives. , understood that we have to control our borders. we have to control migrants flow, but the truth of the matter is, over the last several months, we have seen undocumented crossings go down. what we need to figure out our war the push and pull factors, and go there. putting razor wire on buoys is not how you resolve this situation. i think that for me, someone who has been studying immigration for over two decades, it is so frustrating because this is -- theater. if you really want to have an impact on immigration, you need to go to the policy level and figure out, again, what are the push factors out of the

countries of origin? also, go after the folks who are hiring people illegally, and that is really how you address immigration beyond a need for just a larger scale federal immigration reform. >> not to mention there are babies and children. it's really horrifying to see and hear about. but what do you think happens next? do you think governor abbott will comply with the request? or do you think this is going to turn into a full legal battle? >> it seems like it will be a legal battle. remember that governor abbott, before he was governor of texas, was attorney general. he is a lawyer. he knows very well with the law. is and federally, this is not going to hold up. but in the interim, it's his ability to flex his uber conservative -- and speaking to that very small pocket of the republican party that -- a lot of folks in the republican party are disgusted by this, that in fact, wants to see immigration reform done sensibly. so, this is very much,

regrettably, a political issue. >> and i want to turn now to the texas abortion restrictions. this week, but women behind the lawsuit seeking to force the state of texas to clarify just when a doctor can perform an abortion to save a woman's life took the stand to testify about the impact of the states near total abortion ban. now, this is a warning to our viewers. their testimony is difficult to watch and to hear. i want you to take a listen, and we'll get your response. >> i just kept telling myself and my baby that i'm so sorry that this was happening to you! i'm so sorry that i couldn't help her! [inaudible] my parents and josh's parents flew in from indiana, because they were afraid that it might be the last time they'd see me. >> i don't feel safe to have children in texas anymore. i know that i was very clear that my health didn't really matter. >> whatever your beliefs, these

are real women. testifying, about their experiences. how is this significant is this trial in post roe america? >> it's very significant, first of all, because it reminds americans that abortion is a health care issue. all of these women, their lives, their own lives were put at risk because doctors who, in texas face a fine of over $100, 000, and many many years in prison, are just not willing to send to these women and these health care needs. i want to zoom out further. in terms of what this means for states like texas. states with abortion bans, we have seen data over the last couple of months that fewer and fewer folks are gonna be starting the residency in ob/gyn,'s they want to go to the states. this is gonna translate into a fewer og being by and doctors in the. states it just so happens that

these are the states that already have the highest maternal mortality rates. this is a crisis of health care, especially for women. >> yeah, so many repercussions, victoria, thank you so much. what jamie fox just said after battling months with a mysterious illness, we will be right back. right back. and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv

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night. defeating a newcomer, vietnam, three to. nothing team usa faces the netherlands wednesday. a rematch of the 2019 championship. back in the, u.s. lionel messi and his debut with inter miami, capping his first match with the stunning game-winning goal in stoppage time. miami won 2 to 1. actor, jimmy, fox is finally speaking out after months of battling a mysterious illness. in an instagram video overnight, the award winning actor and musician gave an emotional update, thanking fans and think he is on the road to recovery. nbc's, dana, griffin is in los angeles with more. dana, what can you tell us about his condition? >> erin, we still are not getting closer to knowing exactly what's sent him to the hospital in april. we clearly see that he is doing well. and at times he used his humor to try to poke fun at the rumors that were circulating. but he was also very emotional

about what this journey has been like for him. take a listen. >> i went to hell and back. and my road to recovery had some plot holes as well. but i am coming back, and i'm able to work. so i want to thank people that let me work and i want to say that i love everybody and i love all the love that i got. >> the 55 year old was also thinking fans for the messages and a love. and he really wanted to make it clear that it was his daughter, his sister, the medical staff that saved his life. and there is probably a good reason why he wanted to keep everything closed off, he mentioned earlier in that statement that he didn't want people to see him with tubes coming out, trying to figure out whether or not he would make it. so as he said, jaime is back. >> that is a very personal

battle, but glad to see he's on the up. that will do it for me on this edition of alex witt reports, catch more on the show tomorrow at one pm eastern. my friend lindsey reiser continues our coverage. now have a great weekend. >> good afternoon everyone. i'm lindsey reiser, in for yasmin vossoughian today, with another potential indictment looming. new reporting from nbc news on what the special counsel wanted to ask a key donald trump aide when they called him back before the grand jury. we're going to look at the legal and political impact of the cases swirling around the former president. on a presidential campaign trail, nbc news says new details on a campaign reboot for ron desantis. months before the first votes are even cast. the troubling signs for the florida governor's white house aspirations. plus -- >> in the state of florida, they decided middle school